Sunday, December 13, 2009

T6 BR Lili rochefort threads







Lili Juggles and Combo's


NOTE THAT THE LISTED DAMAGES ARE OUT OF A 180 DMG POINT BAR



uf3

- b21, 12, df3, b! 323 === 66 dmg
- b21, 12, f1+2, b! 323 === 64 dmg
- b21~b, bt 12, df3, 323 === 68 dmg
- df2, df1, 12, df3, b! 323 === 67 dmg
- df2, 1, b21, f1+2,b! 323 === 66 dmg
- uf3+4, 1, 12, f1+2_df3, E1 === 62_64 dmg


df2

- f23, df3+4, bt 1, 323 === 69 dmg
- f23, df3, b! 323 === 71 dmg
- f23, ff 12, f1+2, b! 323 === 71 dmg
- b21~b, bt 12, df3, b! === 72 dmg
- df2, df1, 12, f1+2, b! === 69 dmg

ws2

- fc,df1, 1, b21, f1+2, b!, 323 === 73 dmg
- df2, df1, 12, df3,b! 323 === 71 dmg
- df2, df2~b, bt12, df3,b! 323 === 77 dmg
- ~b, bt uf4, df1, 12, f1+2,b! 323 === 74 dmg
- ~b, bt uf4, df2, 12, df3,b! 323 === 78 dmg
- ~b, bt uf4, df2~b, bt 12, f1+2,b! === 78 dmg
- ~b, bt uf4, df2~b, bt 12, df3,b! === 80 dmg
- ~b, bt uf3, df2~b, bt 12, df3,b! === 84 dmg [max, situational / inconsistent]

d3+4
- UF4, b21, 1, f1+2, b! 323 [situational] === 85 dmg
- UF4, df1, 12, f1+2, b! 323 === 83 dmg
- UF4, df2, 12, df3, b! 323 === 87 dmg
- UF4, df2~b, bt 12, df3,b! 323 === 89 dmg

df3+4
- bt d1, ws2, 12, f1+2, b!, 323 === 67 dmg
- bt d1, ws2~b, bt 12, df3,b!, 323 === 71 dmg
- bt12, 12, f1+2,b! 323 === 64 dmg
- ~f, 413, b!, E0
- ~f, 41, df3, b!, 323 === 66 dmg
- ~f, 41, df1, f1+2,b! 323 === 67 dmg
- ~f, 41, 12, f1+2, b!, 323 === 66 dmg

ff2
- 41, 12, f1+2,b! 323 === 80 dmg
- db1, ws2~b, bt12, f1+2,b! 323 === 83 dmg

ff3
- 41, 12, f1+2,b! 323 === 65 dmg
- 41, df3,b!, ws2, 1, qcf12 === 68 dmg
- db1, ws2, 12, f1+2,b!, 323 === 66 dmg
- db1, ws2~b, bt12, f1+2,b! 323 === 68 dmg
- db1, ws2~b, bt12, df3,b! 323 === 70 dmg

db4
- df2, df1, 12, f1+2, b!, 323 === 74 dmg
- ws2, df1, 12, f1+2, b! 323 === 75 dmg
- ssr, df2, df1, 12, df3,b!, 323 === 76 dmg

ws3
- f23, df3+4, bt 1, 323 === 75 dmg
- ~4,b!, f3+4~3>4 === 68[jf ~78] dmg

CH ws1
- db1, ws2, 12, f1+2, b!, 323 === 64 dmg

bt 1+2
- db1, ws2, 12, f1+2,b! 323=== approx 81 dmg
- db1, ws2, df1, f1+2, b! 323 === approx 82 dmg
- db1, ws2~b, bt12, df3,b!, 323 === 89 dmg

CH db3
- df3+4, bt 12, 1, f1+2,b! === 81 dmg
- df3+4, bt12, 323 === 74 dmg [max wall carry]

CH f23
- 323 === 68 dmg
- 32,df44 === 71 dmg


Post Bound enders

E0
- ws2, 323
- df2, 1, qcf12
- ff3,3+4
- 323
- qcf12
- df3+4,3+4
- df3+4, bt 1+2

E1
- df2, 323
- ws2, 323 [Large Characters]
- ff3,3+4
- qcf12
- df3+4,3+4
- df3+4, bt 1+2

E2
- 323
- df2, 12
- ff3,3+4
- qcf12
- df3+4,3+4



df+2
-f+2,3 df+3+4, BT 1,2 f1+2 B! ff+3,3+4_qcf+1,2
-f+2,3 1,2 f1+2 B! ff+3,3+4_qcf+1,2

df+3+4
-~f 4,1,3 B! FC df+1(old qcf+1), 2, qcf+1,2
-BT 3, 3,2 1 f1+2 B! ff+3,3+4_qcf+2,1

From JOYBOX-TKKEN6BR-no18 and no19 in Youtube:

- CH d/f+3, d+1, 2~B, BT 1, 3, 2, 3
- u/f+3, d/f+1, d/f+1, 1, 2, f+1+2 B! E2
- WS+2, d/f+2, d/f+1, 1, 2, f+1+2 B! E2
- d/f+3+4, BT 1, 2, 1, 2, f+1+2 B! E2

- Low Parry, d/f+1, 1, 2, d+2, 2, 3
- Floor Break, qcf+1, 2
- Floor Break, 3, 2, 3
- d/f+3 B! f+3+4~3, 4

For the 1at juggle I'm not sure if we can slip in BT 1, 2 f+1+2 to get B! but that one is guaranteed. I'm guessing that would be our staple for launchers such as CH FC,d/f+3; CH b+1+2 etc...

EDIT: Another juggle:
- f,f+3, 4, 1, 1, 2, f+1+2 B! E2

From the vids I dunno, it looks like
d/b+3+4, f,f+4
is guaranteed...
Any thoughts?

If anyone could test if these juggles worked, I'll really appreciate...
- WS+2, u/f+3+4, d/f+1, f+1, 2, f+1+2 B!
- CH d/f+3, d/b+2, WS+2, 1, 2, f+1+2 B! (d/b+2 can connect post CH d/f+3 in DR)

WS+3,4 B!
-df+1,2 3,2,3
-WS+2, 2, qcf+1,2

uf+3_df+2
-b+2,1~B BT 1,2 df+3 B! WS+2, qcf+1,2
-df+1, df+1, 1,2 f+1+2_df+3 B! qcf+1,2_df+3+4,3+4

db+4
-FC df+1, df+1, 1,2 f+1+2_df+3 B! qcf+1,2_df+3+4,3+4
-df+2, 2, b+2,1 f+1+2_df+3 B! qcf+1,2_df+3+4,3+4
-df+2, df+1, 1,2 f+1+2_df+3 B! qcf+1,2_df+3+4,3+4

df+3+4
-d+2, WS+2, 1,2 f+1+2 B! ff+3,3+4_df+3+4,3+4_qcf+1,2
-~f 4,1 1,2 f+1+2 B! ff+3,3+4_df+3+4,3+4_qcf+1,2
-~f 4,1,3 B! WS+2 1,2 qcf+1,2

WS+2
-~b db~WS+2, df+1, 1,2 f+1+2 B! ff+3,3+4_df+3+4,3+4_qcf+1,2
-~b db~WS+2, 2, b+1,2 df+3_f+1+2 B! ff+3,3+4_df+3+4,3+4_ qcf+1,2
-FC df+1, df+1, 1,2 f+1+2 B! ff+3,3+4, df+3+4,3+4, qcf+1,2

d+3+4
-db+3_uf~N+4, df+1, 1,2 df+3_f+1+2 B! ff+3+4_df+3+4,3+4_qcf+1,2

FC df+1
-df+1, df+1, 1,2 df+3_f+1+2 B! ff+3,3+4_df+3+4,3+4_qcf+1,2

WS+3,4
-d+1,2 3,2,3
-WS+2, 1,2, qcf+1,2

Low Parry (Instant Bound)
-df+1, df+1, 1,2 qcf+1,2 (Strongest as of now)
-df+1, 1,2 d+2,2,3 (for wall carry)

Backroll Catch
df+3+4, d+2, WS+2, f+1+2 B! ff+3,3+4_df+3+4,3+4_qcf+1,2



NOTE: All of these were tested by yours truly, all of these combos work.

ff+2, d1,2~b, BT1,2, df3 b! ff3,3+4_qcf1,2_df3+4,3+4

CH df3+4, BT d1, ws2, 12, df3 b! (does not hit consistantly still figuring out the condition)

trying out CH 1+2, d1,2~b, *BT1,2, df3 b!_BT1+2* not sure if any BT move will hit.

b+4~3, WS+2, df+1, 1 2, f+1+2, b! df+3+4,3+4

uf3:
df1x2; 1,2; f1+2 B!; ff3,3+4_df3+4,mixups
2; b2,1; f1+2 B! d2,2,3

WS2:
uf3+4; 2; b2,1; f1+2 B!; ff3,3+4_df3+4,mixups

CHdf3:
4,1; 1,2; f1+2 B!

bt1+2_CHws1, db1, ws2~b, bt12, df3 b! works. I'm pretty sure its consistent enough

Top 10 Moves for Ms. Rochefort
Here are the moves I find myself consistently using outside of juggles:

1. 1,2 (I mix up the 3,4 ender a bunch, esp near walls)
2. d/f+1
3. d/f+2
4. d/f+3 (on teching opponents, start myself with +3 frames)
5. u/f+3
6. QCF+1>2 (my god, this move is amazing, it closes so much space, and the delayable 2 catching a counter makes people want to not punish on block)
7. QCF+3+4 (+6 on block, crushes low and highs? yeah... I abuse this)
8. d/f+3+4 (another way to start offense from afar since its safe now)
9. d/b+4 (crushy mcCrush)
10. 2,4 (great punish, safe enough on block to SS attacks after... and boy do people love to attack after they block this for some reason)

Frame Data do Lili


T6:BR
Lili’s frame data.

Done by
umair mullah

Sources:
inatekken, self-testing

INPUT RANGE DMG SPEED GUARD HIT CH INFO
1 high 8 10 +1 +8 +8
1,2 high,high 8,14
-1 +8 +8
1,2,3 high,high,low 8,14,12
-16 -6 +2~+3S
1,2,4 high,high,mid 8,14,30
-7 D D
2 high 8 10 ±0 +8 +8
2,3 high,low 8,12
-16 -6 +2~+3S
2,4 high,high 8,24
-4 KMD KMD NC
3 mid 16 15B - + +
3,1 mid,mid 16,25
-12~? FD FD
3,2 mid,high 16,15
- + +
3,2,3 mid,high,high 16,15,30
-15? KMD KMD
1+2 mid 30 12 -12? FD FD
3+4 mid 21(,6,9) 36~40? -8 U U JS
3+4 mid 21 41?~ -7? UTD UTD
f+2 high 16 13 - -1 -1?
f+2,3 high,mid 16,21
-10,11? TKD TKD NCc,
JS
f+3 mid 28 20 -9 KMD KMD HOMING
f+4 mid 24 17 -14 D D
f+1+2 mid 20 14 -6 +3S UTD BOUNCE
f+3+4 mid,mid 12,20 18(12JS~) -8 TD TD NC
f+3+4,3 mid,mid 12,24 18(12JS~) -7 TD TD
f+3+4,3,4 mid,mid,mid 12,24,30
-22 TKD TKD
df+1 mid 14 13~14 -
1~±0?
+7 +7
df+2 mid 19 16~17 -11~-
10
U U JS
df+2~b mid,
BT
19 16~17B -11~-
10
U U
df+3 mid 27 20 +3S +8S TD B
df+4 mid 16 15 -7 +5 +5 tracks right
df+4.4 mid,low 16,25 -3 -21 -2S UTD NCc
df+3+4 mid 19 23?B -3 TD TD JS
df+3+4,3+4 mid,mid,mid 19,12,24 B -8? TD TD
d+1 low 12 19 -11 ±0 ±0
d+1,2 low,high 12,9
- + +
d+1,2~b low,high,BT 12,9 B -? + +
d+1,2,4 low,high,mid 12,9,28
-15 KMD KMD
d+2 mid 21 16~17 -8 -1 -1
d+2,2 mid,high 21,12
-10 -2 -2
d+2,2,3 mid,high,high 21,12,28
+1 KMD KMD
d+2,2,4 mid,high,mid 21,12,26
-15,16? FD FD
d+3 low 16 19 -12 +1 +1 track left
d+3+4 mid 27 18 -22 SU SU JS
db+3 high 27 20~21 -6 KMD KMTD CH JS
db+4 lowCS 24 27 -24 KBD KBD JS
db+3+4 low 19 25SA -16 UD UD
b+1 mid 21 16? -9? + TD
b+2 high 18 13 -11 ±0 ±0
b+2,1 high,high 18,12
-2 +5 +5
b+2,1~b high,high,BT 18,12 B -6 +1 +1
b+3 jump
left






b+4 jump
right






b+3_4,f jump
and qcf

S



b+3,3

b+4,3

jump
left, low

jump right, low

26 S -15 KBD KBD
b+3,4

b+4,4

jump
left, mid

jump right, mid

32
-7 KMD KMD
b+1+2 mid 28 30 -16 KFD KFD?
b+1+4 unblock 72 63 KMD KMD KMD
ub_u+3+4 mid 30 20? - U U JS
ub_u+3+4,6 mid,qcf 30 20? - U U
ub_u+3+4,3 mid,mid 30,18
-1 TD TD NC
ub_u+3+4,3,4 mid,mid,
mid, mid
30,18,12,16
-7 TD TD NC
uf+3 mid 15 15 -12 U U JS
uf+4 mid 21 30 -12S +1S +1S
uf+4,3 mid,mid 21,27
-13 UFD KZD
uf+3+4 mid 18 15 -9 +2 +2
uf+3+4,3 mid,high 18,19
-9? +2? D NC
uf+3+4,3+4 mid,mid 18,26
-16 SU SU
f,f+2 mid 33 18
(19~)
-11 KZD KZD JS
f,f+3 mid 18 24
(25~)
-5 TD TD JS
f,f+3,3+4 mid,mid,mid 18,12,16
-7 TD TD NC
f,f+4 low 27 22
(23~)
-13 +3 +3?
f,f+3+4 mid 36 19
(20~)
-6 D D
WS+1 mid 14 15 -4? +5 TKD
WS+2 mid 21 17 -11 U U
WS+2~b mid 21 17B -11 U U
WS+3 mid 25 16 -17

(-13A?)

U U
WS+3,4 mid,mid 25,15
+1S TD TD BOUNCE
FC
df+1
mid 21 16
(16~)
-12 U U JS
FC df+3 low 22 23 -17? -3 KBD CH JS
FC df+3
(distance)
low 22 28? -9? +2? KBD CH JS
SS+3 mid 20 20?(29?
~)
-9? TKD TKD
SS+1+2 mid 25 21?(30?
~)
-3 KMD KZD

QCF MOVES
INPUT RANGE DMG SPEED GUARD HIT CH INFO
d,df,f qcf
S



qcf+1 mid 21 15
(17~)
-14 -3 -3
qcf+1,2 mid,mid 21,24
-14 D KZD
qcf+2 mid 28 18?(19?
~)
-6 +5? KZD
qcf+3+4 high,high 16,19 12A
(14~)
+5 KMD KMD track right
qcf+3 mid 25 16
(18~)
-17

(-13A?)

U U
qcf+3,4 mid,mid 25,15
+1S TD TD BOUNCE
qcf+4 mid 21 11(13)
-7? TKD TKD

BT MOVES
INPUT RANGE DMG SPEED GUARD HIT CH INFO
b+3+4 BT
B



1 high 9 9? -3 +3 +3
1,2 high,high 9,15
-3 +5 +5
2 mid 20 13 -10? KMD KMTD
4 mid,mid 12,24 32B -6 UTD UTD BOUNCE
4,3+4 mid,mid,

mid,mid

12,24,12,12 B -10 TD TD
1+2 mid,mid 12,25 14? -4S TD TD
3+4 mid 21 30 -10~ +15?S TD
3+4,2 mid,mid 21,25
-11 KMD KMTD
d+3 low 19 18 -15? -4 ±0S
d+3,4 low,mid 19,26
-13 TKD TKD
d+3+4 low 26 22B -23 KBD KBD
d+3+4~f low,fb 26 22 -23 KBD KBD



LILI COMBO VIDEOS


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